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Why is New York State looking to ban eliquids?
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Why is New York State looking to ban eliquids?
Over the last few days it has emerged that a draft bill has been presented to the New York state authorities which would effectively ban eliquid from sale in the state of New York. There is growing concern that any potential ban on eliquid sales could be replicated across other US states which very often follow suit. So how big is the threat? What is the reasoning behind the move? Will it ultimately succeed?

There are many questions to be answered with regards to this draft bill with the spectre of the tobacco companies very much in the background.

What is this proposal based upon?

This draft bill is based upon the suggestion that electronic cigarette companies are targeting minors with their products. While some may argue that the colourful names of some of the flavours may attract the attention of minors, the fact remains that laws are being introduced to restrict the sale of electronic cigarettes, vaping devices and eliquid to those over the legal age to acquire tobacco products. Quite why politicians are looking to introduce a blanket ban on eliquid products is a mystery.

It is also worth noting that time and time again politicians use the idea that electronic cigarette companies are targeting minors and indeed the suggestion that minors are using electronic cigarettes. This is despite the fact that many surveys have confirmed that the vast majority of electronic cigarette users are former tobacco cigarette smokers and indeed those who had never smoked before are very unlikely to find electronic cigarettes appealing.

Protecting tobacco tax income?

Many people believe that some politicians may be motivated by the massive tobacco taxes collected by US states in years gone by. This income stream has reduced significantly since the introduction of public smoking bans although many experts expect this to increase if eliquid products are banned from sale. So far no politician has been willing to answer the question of whether tobacco tax income plays any part in the assessment of the electronic cigarette market and associated products.

In many ways we are seeing a pincer movement targeting the electronic cigarette industry with the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) looking at a new regulatory structure while some states look at bans or ecig taxes. It would be safe to say there is no consensus of opinion among state authorities and the political parties although there is growing unrest amongst the vaping community, many of who believe electronic cigarettes are their best opportunity to reduce their tobacco intake.

Conclusion

Despite the fact that the European regulators and the FDA have finally stepped up to the mark with regards their responsibilities in the regulatory arena, it seems that politicians still know best. Even though the FDA attempted to ban electronic cigarettes years ago, recent communications suggest a new regulatory structure as opposed to an outright ban. This then prompts the question, if the FDA (and its European counterpart) has not even suggested banning electronic cigarettes or eliquid, why are some US states looking down this particular avenue?
24-06-2014 10:50 AM
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RE: Why is New York State looking to ban eliquids?
They think all they have to do is claim that a law will keep kids safe and it will pass. If you don't like it then they can claim you hate children and probably molest puppies too. As for why the law? I can't think of anything other than money. Big Tobacco and Big Pharma are lobbying like crazy and they have the money and the access to our bought and paid for "representatives".

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24-06-2014 08:37 PM
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RE: Why is New York State looking to ban eliquids?
(24-06-2014 10:50 AM)Mark Benson Wrote:  Over the last few days it has emerged that a draft bill has been presented to the New York state authorities which would effectively ban eliquid from sale in the state of New York. There is growing concern that any potential ban on eliquid sales could be replicated across other US states which very often follow suit. So how big is the threat? What is the reasoning behind the move? Will it ultimately succeed?


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Well I hope they don't bring that over here!! 


That was like the FDA bull crap claim that they don't want to approve it because they don't know the long term effects of just nicotine without all the extra crap from the cigs. Even though they have a nicotine inhaler from Pfizer they already approved.....


.....Nothing shady going on there Scratch_one-s_head

 
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RE: Why is New York State looking to ban eliquids?
(24-06-2014 08:37 PM)18sixfifty Wrote:  They think all they have to do is claim that a law will keep kids safe and it will pass. If you don't like it then they can claim you hate children and probably molest puppies too. As for why the law? I can't think of anything other than money. Big Tobacco and Big Pharma are lobbying like crazy and they have the money and the access to our bought and paid for "representatives".

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I think money is the primary interest here. It's not hard to see that there are some people out here that are making their own e liquids, and home made or not, the government can't seem to get a grip on how to effectively attach that money. I think our only strength is to be, as a community, more educated, and willing to educate, more than minimally considerate to those that don't vape, and to be able to express these feelings at the polls. When the fat cats are gone, so will be the rubbish they profess. As well, an understanding public, would be more willing to support that.

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