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Wattage/Ohm Question
Been using my 60w mod with an Atlantis V2, just got my 200w Kbox in today and accidently burnt my .5 coil and nearly toasted my .3.. Wasn't paying attention when switching and hit them at a much higher wattage than I had realized. I ordered a velocity RDA from fasttech several weeks ago and it still has not come in so I will be going to my local vape shop to get some cotton/wire/an RDA tomorrow.
But what I am really wondering is what gauge (24/26 I was thinking), and how do I know what wattage is good? Simply start low and work up? I do not want to keep burning up my coils but I also want more clouds/flavor and was hoping to get this with the new mod... 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TL;DR - I wants more clouds and flavor, simple coil/wattage description to get there? Rocking KBOX 200w.
05-02-2016 03:22 AM
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RE: Wattage/Ohm Question
I always recommend 26ga kanthal for starting out, since it's an easy size to work with and will give you a great vape. I use 26ga myself 90% of the time. Wattage all depends on your build and your juice. My personal "lazy build" (what I use when I don't feel like building complex coils) is 7 wraps of 26ga kanthal around a 2.5mm post, dual coil, which equals out to around 0.3 ohms and works well at about 50-75W using 70VG/30PG juice. If you use thinner juice, you might want to turn the wattage down a little bit since the PG will give you a harsher throat hit. 
On the Atlantis, I recommend around 40-60W depending on which coil you're using. The 0.5 ohm coil is good from 40-50W, while the 0.3 ohm is good at 50-60W. Of course, this is just my personal experience, it's good to just use the recommended wattage on the side of the coil with pre-made coils. 
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RE: Wattage/Ohm Question
(05-02-2016 05:25 AM)Michael Wrote:  I always recommend 26ga kanthal for starting out, since it's an easy size to work with and will give you a great vape. I use 26ga myself 90% of the time. Wattage all depends on your build and your juice. My personal "lazy build" (what I use when I don't feel like building complex coils) is 7 wraps of 26ga kanthal around a 2.5mm post, dual coil, which equals out to around 0.3 ohms and works well at about 50-75W using 70VG/30PG juice. If you use thinner juice, you might want to turn the wattage down a little bit since the PG will give you a harsher throat hit. 
On the Atlantis, I recommend around 40-60W depending on which coil you're using. The 0.5 ohm coil is good from 40-50W, while the 0.3 ohm is good at 50-60W. Of course, this is just my personal experience, it's good to just use the recommended wattage on the side of the coil with pre-made coils. 
Hmm, so what really is the point of have a mod that goes 100w+? I know that it goes down to .05 and has Temp Control (never used that lol) but it seems that I cranked up the wattage to put out some more vapor and ended up just torching the coils..
05-02-2016 12:25 PM
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RE: Wattage/Ohm Question
Firing low ohm isn't relevant because the mod can't deliver suitable power for 200w @ .05

You can hit 200w and still not be pushing a coil.. depends on the coil Wink

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RE: Wattage/Ohm Question
as an example , if you wer to have a .5 ohm dual 24ga coil in fact you have 2 fairly large 1 ohm coils . at 40w you would be stressing the crap out of yor battery and getting little vapor ,at 100w you would get a thicker vapor with less stress on the batteries .

the basic rule is more surface area and lower resistance (to a certain extent ) give more vapor , the larger the surface area the more power you need to efficiently heat it.

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RE: Wattage/Ohm Question
This. I just built .25 dual vertical claptons on my aromamizer. I need 50 watts to taste the juice and get a nice even vape (but I can vape high VG no problem). Claptons give you a nice large surface area. A good twisted coil also gives you a nice surface area. I like to use as thick a wire as my atty will support. It lasts longer, is easier dry burning, wicks without distorting the coils and is easier to build the coil. It also gives you the best cloud.

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RE: Wattage/Ohm Question


You can use all your power, get massive clouds.. but it'll be hot as Satan's eyebrows!
For a easy coil try a kanthal 24g parallel 5×2.5-3mm wraps dual @.1.  Should hit the spot. Just turn it up 'till you can't stand no more.
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RE: Wattage/Ohm Question
Seems the guys have beaten me to the answer. That's what I get for falling asleep Tongue
The coils in a tank are very different from the coils in an RDA. There isn't a single tank available that can go 150W+. The TFV4 with quad coils can get about 120W comfortably, but it's not recommended since it'll have a bit of trouble wicking fast enough to keep up. RDAs, on the other hand, can be built to handle more power at similar resistance. I can push 100W from a 0.4 ohm build, and I'm definitely not a coil building expert. The kind of build and the size of the coils matter more than resistance. And even among tank coils, there's different types of coils, for example your 0.5 ohm Atlantis coils are good at 50W, but a 0.5 ohm SubTank coil would burn at that power, even though the resistance is the same, the style of coil is very different. 
05-02-2016 03:35 PM
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RE: Wattage/Ohm Question
Sorry Michael - not true.

As easily as my Aromamizer keeps up with 100w, if I had a mod and batteries that cold go north of 150, the tank cetainly has the airflow to keep up.

Paul - Go horizontal with that build and push them low in the deck.  They wick faster.  Wink


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RE: Wattage/Ohm Question
Ah sorry, I should have specified "Not a single tank that I know of." I didn't realize the Aromamizer was that hefty, when I saw one at a shop it looked about like a TFV4 in terms of airflow and wicking. But then again, the Aromamizer does have a large build deck so I'm not surprised to find out it can go that high. Of course it needs to be built properly to get there. Since the OP is new to coil building, I was thinking of pre-made coils. 
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