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They really don't get it
Too much wilful stupidity for me to bother commenting any more. Fortunately lithium ion cells usually fail benignly.

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16-03-2014 09:22 PM
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RE: They really don't get it
I must admit I do leave them in but I know the chargers I have do terminate at 4.2 then discharge a little then top up ad nasueum... I do however know someone who was leaving his batteries on charge and wondered why every time he picked them up after a charge they were red hot and didn't last long. It turned out his particular charger wasn't terminating.. how he never burned his house down I'll never know.

He's now paranoid about it and won't charge them at all unless he's in the room and he now has a decent charger Smile
16-03-2014 10:19 PM
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I'm a bit paranoid about it myself. But it's mostly that I have so many going all the time. I figure that it kind of stacks the odds against me, if you know what I mean. 

If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?
16-03-2014 10:46 PM
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RE: They really don't get it
Whats most stupid is this belief vapers have that an intellicharger is the be all and end all of charger tech.....

Nit when they fucking electrocute you through the neg end then promptly blow up......


Buy a decent charger and the most it needs is 3 hours charge time, and with mosr vaping cells and vaping duscharge levels, an hour will do it.

As you say Don, there's only so much stupid before you have to leave people to it.
16-03-2014 11:16 PM
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The real issue is heat. Those chargers, whether charging or not are using power. That energy has to go somewhere - usually it appears as heat. That's going into the cells. Get them hot enough and you aren't going to like what happens. 

At the very least the cycle life is being reduced - heating fully charged lithium cells is a good way to reduce their capacity, increase their internal resistance and rapidly reduce their suitability for vaping. HKJ's thermal images of chargers are rather informative there.

And that assumes the charger hasn't developed a fault. Storage on a charger "so they are always ready" has been the death of many a cell of all sorts of chemistry. Just that with lithium cells it is an even worse idea.

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16-03-2014 11:24 PM
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It's getting worse. Interestingly, (Who I might just talk to their local Trading Standards about) the two most vehement are vendors!

Vested interests anyone?

There really is no cure for stupid.

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17-03-2014 08:36 PM
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The one who leaves his charging in his bedroom. ....if I goes bang I'll be alerted.......Dash2

Vaping forums are fucking dangerous, and ukv should be one of the most on top of cell safety. Its bloody scary.
17-03-2014 08:54 PM
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Just leave them to it guys and don't get embroiled. We're not here to have a pop at members and vendors on other forums despite how stupid some of their actions may appear.

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17-03-2014 10:43 PM
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Hey Don, there is one cure for stupid, Darwin award anyone??

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If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?
18-03-2014 06:40 AM
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(18-03-2014 06:40 AM)18sixfifty Wrote:  Hey Don, there is one cure for stupid, Darwin award anyone??

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I wonder why that gene pool is almost empty.. LOL

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