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The Kraken has been released!!
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RE: The Kraken has been released!!
OK, so I looked at a few old threads like this where Gennie's are highlighted. These are not exactly the same as RDTA's. So what's really the difference, exactly? I need to stop calling RDTA's 'gennie's' if it's a distinct deal.
24-10-2016 08:47 PM
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RE: The Kraken has been released!!
as far as I am aware (I may be wrong) all the old gennies I have used had vertical coils and wicking
they could be used with metal mesh(oxidised with burnt juice to stop any shorting) as a wicking material

if at first you don't succeed ,call it version 1.0
24-10-2016 09:03 PM
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RE: The Kraken has been released!!
I wrapped the mesh in a cigarette paper then lit that. The carbon coating is the only thing between you and a short so a good thick coating is recommended.

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24-10-2016 09:20 PM
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RE: The Kraken has been released!!
all a bit dodgy when you look back at it
they were used on mech mods back then so if you got it wrong there was a good chance of your battery venting

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24-10-2016 09:31 PM
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So are they related other than a bottom sitting tank, at all?
24-10-2016 09:33 PM
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Not really - Gennies are almost all low-power MTL devices. (Apart from the Prometheus).

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24-10-2016 09:34 PM
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Then I will stick with the TLA going forward, and not call those other things gennies.
24-10-2016 09:35 PM
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RE: The Kraken has been released!!
I'm not sure exactly where the line is drawn between "Genesis-style" or Genny RTAs (so-named because they were all pretty much clones of the popular Genesis RTA) and the RDTAs of today. I wouldn't call a Limitless Plus a genny because there are a lot of differences. The Genesis was single coil, without the Velocity-style build deck, and like the other guys said it was used with a vertical coil with steel mesh as the wick. So aside from having a tank below the coils, they had very little in common with modern RDTAs. 

Edit: y'all snuck in while I was typing. That's what I get for talking a lot I guess. 
24-10-2016 09:38 PM
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RE: The Kraken has been released!!
The genesis style atty, at the time, was what one used for maximum flavor. They are very tricky to build right and doing it was an art form. Kids today wouldn't have the first clue what to do with one. LOL

A genny always has the liquid below the vape deck and used one or two vertical coils. Many had special pieces made that would take up half the chamber if a single coil was used. Many had special plugs to block the wicking hole for the second coil. "Tipping" was a phrased coined for the tip that a vaper would use to help feed eliquid up the wick to feed the coil. Not only mesh was used as the wicking material. Cotton, stainless steel cable, silica, and yes, even coral was used as wicking material.

The SS mesh and cable do need to be insulated but simply heating it with a butane jet lighter until it glows will put a nice carbon layer on it that will act as an insulator. Sometimes folks would roll a thin layer of cotton over the rolled mesh or cable then build the coil over that. The coils themselves were always tests of patience and much tweaking was usually needed to build without a coil without shorts or hot legs. If you can build a good genny you can build anything.

My challenge for all you relatively new vapers that haven't used a genny before is to get one and give it a shot. Post your results here and let us know what you think about the process and the vape results. Is it worth the effort? I thing I already know the answer but will wait and see what you all say first. Wink

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25-10-2016 12:29 AM
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RE: The Kraken has been released!!
I've still got my old Steam Turbine genny, I don't think I have any steel mesh though. I'm sure I've got some silica o could use for wick. I actually found that tank in a box just a couple days ago, thought about posting a "look what I found!" pic. Maybe I'll try building it Tongue

It's definitely MTL-only, I thought about drilling the air hole out since it's even tighter than I like for MTL.
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