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Online Poll: Who should have the greatest say in vaping regulations?
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Online Poll: Who should have the greatest say in vaping regulations?
It is rather ironic to look back at the turn-of-the-century when politicians, and tobacco companies for that matter, treated the vaping industry with disdain and ridicule. However, fast forward just over a decade and we see politicians and tobacco companies falling over themselves to take an interest in the industry as it goes from strength to strength.

We therefore thought it would be interesting to run an online poll asking who you think should be in charge of vaping regulation, effectively who you trust.

Politicians

If you look at the political scenario from both angles there is no doubt that politicians have a duty to protect the general public. We all know that, this is the basis for politics, but on the other hand we have seen many politicians become involved in industries in which they have no real expertise or right to be there. Depending upon which side of the fence you sit, you could argue that politicians are simply looking out the general public or on the other hand looking towards the vaping industry as a “cash cow” for governments in the future.

Medical profession

The medical profession is a very complex animal with rumours and counter rumours of influence by outside parties such as tobacco and pharmaceutical groups. In reality the medical profession needs to have some kind of relationship with pharmaceutical companies and many would argue with the tobacco industry as well. However, where the uncertainty arises is whether the large amount of funding from various outside parties in any way influences research notes and policies.

In reality it is likely that each and every person will be on one side of the fence or the other with very few people taking a balanced approach. The industry has not helped itself in recent times with various attempts to talk down the vaping sector when much of the factual research would suggest a more positive approach should be taken.

General public

Many would argue that politicians are there to reflect the views of the general public but it is highly debatable as to whether this is the case with regards to electronic cigarettes. The vast majority of the general public would seem to have a positive view or a neutral stance with very few overly negative. There is an argument that various attempts by politicians and biased third parties to link electronic cigarettes to tobacco products have been successful despite the fact there are many significant differences. Has this influenced the general public in any way?

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You may think that politicians should have the final say on vaping regulations, perhaps the medical profession should have the loudest voice or should the general public have its own input? You may be one of many who believe that each party should have some input into the matter of regulating electronic cigarettes to give a more balanced approach. We would be interested to hear your views, opinions and suggestions for the future of the electronic cigarette industry and indeed in whose hands you feel the industry would be safest?

For more information on OK Electronic Cigarettes and the various products available please visit the OKCigs website.
28-01-2016 05:04 PM
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RE: Online Poll: Who should have the greatest say in vaping regulations?
Problem is, the medical profession and the politicians can and are regularly lobbied to have a certain opinion, regardless of the facts. And while the general public may sound like the right answer, most of the genpop is not in 'our' corner, so that may lead to results other than preferred.

Just set some small regs up that would ensure that juice contains safe, clean ingredients, and restrict sales to minors. Sadly the perfect scenario will probably never happen.
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I don't think politicians should get involved in anything - even politics. The medical people take years to even think about anything never mind take control or give an opinion. The general public will either make the market - or break it. If they don't like something they will not buy it and money at the end of the day rules. The industry itself at this stage will sort itself out - the fittest and best survive - these being the ones that supply the public with the best and safest products - and that they are safe should be on the onus of the manufacturer to prove it. There are plenty of companies out there only too eager to test things and give their opinion - these of course will differ and the public will have to choose who to trust. Leave well alone I say - too much nanny state already - let us just get on vaping and the consequences will eventually be history for others to judge.
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RE: Online Poll: Who should have the greatest say in vaping regulations?
Regulation is always an insatiable monster. We have enough of those already.

As long as the device meet the applicable existing standards what is the problem?

As long as the juices meet the applicable existing standards...

We really don't need any more.

But will get it - with three million vapers used to either donating money to the IRA (Who are huge in tobacco smuggling) or the equally mercenary government, that's a chunk of change to lose.

The agenda on ecigs would appear to be revenue driven.

Apparently the Eurocrats and "Public Health" establishment believe we should instead give lots of money to terrorist groups in Westminster, wherever the European Commission calls home, or the one in Ireland.

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RE: Online Poll: Who should have the greatest say in vaping regulations?
I'm on the fence. On the one hand, politicians are the ones who are supposed to be the regulating body and protect the people. But on the other hand, politicians are by necessity corrupt, and people who aren't corrupt don't stand a chance of getting into power since the corrupt ones are the ones with all the money and "supporters" governing their decisions.
On the one hand, medical professionals should be consulted for regulation of things that are entering our bodies, since they understand more about how different chemicals and concoctions can affect us. But on the other hand, medical professionals have shown themselves time and again to be adamantly opposed to vaping regardless of the true nature of harm reduction. We've seen countless "studies" that have been proven false, demonizing vaping in the eyes of the general public, while few healthcare professionals actually promote the truth. 
On the one hand, the general public should be allowed to regulate themselves, since after all the politicians and healthcare professionals are supposed to be representing the public, and they aren't doing their jobs. But on the other hand, the general population doesn't know or care about vaping, and of the few who do, many believe the false reports in media that proclaim vaping is more harmful than smoking. Vapers are a minority, and the non-vaping majority shouldn't be allowed to regulate that which they do not understand or care about. 

With all these "on the other hands..." I'm gonna have to get more hands somehow. I think six should do it... 

Ideally, vapers and REAL scientists should be regulating the industry. No one would ask a lumberjack to help regulate the coal mining industry, and likewise, it'd be moronic to ask a coal miner to enforce regulations against the lumber industry. People within the industry itself, and experts who are unbiased and open-minded, should be the ones who regulate, just like every other industry. 

That would be ideal, but could it ever happen? Politicians stick their noses into things they don't understand, and healthcare professionals create false data to discourage smokers from making the switch. If people like Farsalinos and the folks at Vapers In Power could work together with other pro-vaping advocates, maybe we could make a difference, but the majority is still against us. It's an uphill battle, but we're not going down without a fight. 

(that last bit wasn't intended to sound as "Braveheart"-y as it probably did, sorry) 
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Thanks Mark for your though-provoking post.

You are always well worth listening to.

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RE: Online Poll: Who should have the greatest say in vaping regulations?
D - none of the above.

Question: "Should the government..."

Answer "NO!"

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