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RE: New to Vaping
(16-10-2016 06:51 PM)ecignut Wrote:  
(16-10-2016 05:38 PM)TinWhisker Wrote:  It could be having trouble wicking the 80:20 VG until the juice warms up and becomes more viscous.
Hi TW - That is exactly what it is - you beat me to it[Image: smile.gif]. When it warms up it will be just thin enough for the coil to absorb. Even 70% VG is deadly for factory coils.
Thanks mate, I appriciate that.

I will build my own coil today and try it out with a Dual Coil on the RBA Pro from Kanger and then I will see how it works for me with the 80/20 Juice - It's my allday vape so I need to improove the taste of it and to get it properly and perfectly working for vaping on it the whole day withouth that taste smahing "Dry Hits" .. Smile
16-10-2016 07:05 PM
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Post: #32
RE: New to Vaping
Well, 60:40 is thin enough for most coils to wick properly. 70% and above VG is the range you want to avoid.
16-10-2016 07:25 PM
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RE: New to Vaping
(16-10-2016 07:25 PM)TinWhisker Wrote:  Well, 60:40 is thin enough for most coils to wick properly. 70% and above VG is the range you want to avoid.
Can I actually do anything to get the best out of my Liquids with 70% VG and above?
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Post: #34
RE: New to Vaping
Tin is on the money here.

This something just not discussed enough. Many of the smaller new tanks (those 2ml tanks because of EU regulations) perform best with 50/50 ratios. You can use 60/40 but that is pushing it. Simply put yopu will gunk up your coils and get a bad vape. The new Ultimo tank is a great example. This tank actually has a 4ml capacity. However, those .5 ceramic or clapton coils perform best with a 50/50 or 60/40 VG ratio. Of course you can push it to 70/30 or 80/20 but it was never built for that. In fact most tanks other than the 'beast type' tanks need a higher PG ratio. The corollary is that 6mg eLiquid or lower with these atomizers are also best. Sub-ohm atomizers produce higher throat hit than low and standard resistance atomizers. So using this atomizers with a nicotine level above 6mg will usually taste burnt or harsh.

These are common comlaints on this forum: Why am i getting less vapor and a harsh taste out of my atomizer suddenly? Why do my coils wear out so quickly? What should I set my mod for with a .5 ohm coil? Harsh taste is either too high a nic level or a coil that cannot handle thicker juice. Coils get gunked up quicker with a thicker juice. And you start by vaping at 35 watts with a .5 coil and work your way up from there. I never find i need more than about 40-45 watts on a .5 coil with thinner juice. Of course we are not talking about tanks designed to vape at 150+ watts here. Which I actually do not understand TBH. If I want to vape high watts i'm using a RDTA or RDA.

There is a misconception that some of use experienced vapors only use devices that vape high. Of course that is baloney. Thee are times i enjoy a nice MTL vape or a less trong DL vape. I use Serpent mini, Goblin mini, NarDa RDA and other devices that are meant to be vaped below 45 watts and can be vaoped at 35 watts. I still get plenty of cloud and flavor.

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Post: #35
RE: New to Vaping
Paul, not that you have posted anything that I disagreed with you on, but the above on ratios is spot on!

As I posted previously I purchased TWO identical CLEITO 120 tanks - one in black and one in SS. It was for an experiment of sorts and here is my conclusion after about a month. The Mrs picked the SS and I got the black one. The purpose was to evaluate why she goes through coils like crazy...same tank would remove the different tanks argument.

She vapes at a constant 30W and uses 80/20, I'm vaping at 99.9W to 111W and with anything from 70/30 to more often than not, 60/40 or even 50/50.

Considering the wattage alone, I should be running through coils quicker however she goes through a coil every 2-3 days while I can go 4-5 days easily, current coil has gone 7 days....

She has gone through 2 sets of O-rings and we are now shopping for washers and more seals.....
16-10-2016 09:40 PM
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Post: #36
RE: New to Vaping
Of course you cannot disagree. I'm always right ... I told you that many times Fatboy, lol. There is another reason why coils gunk, BTW. If for example you are using a coils between .15 - .3, they require more heat. This is what happens with thwe TFV8 and TFV4 as an example. If you vape these coils too low they will gunk up as well because you are not properly vaporizing the liquid. So you are vaping high on a good ratio and that helps considerably to keep your coils clean. Then you need coils that wick well and keep up so as not to burn the cotton.

It is possible that because she is vaping at only 30 watts it is contributing the problem. That with the thick juice is a recipe for disaster.

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Post: #37
RE: New to Vaping
Hmmmm I followed your discussion guys ...

How I see there is not a way that I can use premade Coils from Kanger in my Kangertanks and still have a good vape with a 80 VG / 20 PG liquid right?

I'm vaping too on like 30 to 40 Watts with Coils about 0.5 Ohms.

What would it look like if I buy myself one of that "Beast" Tanks? (Baby Beast? Or the big one?) I dont mind to buy another one for my daily Liquid and in fact it has a 80 VG / 20 PG ratio that is why I got a bigger Problem with that issue - otherwise I would try out everything with my RBA or with my RDA just to chill with the vape @home - but the fact is that it's my daylie vape and I need a constantly working setup with a tank .. Smile

Maybe you guys have an Option what Clearomizer can handle that thicker juice with the premade Coils - Like I understood the Smok Beast TFV8 can handle that stuff or did I understand it wrong? I looked up and gathered some informations about the premade Coils for it right now - their area of use is like 50 watts in the start with the 0.15 Ohm Coils they manufacture.

Like I saw some videos on youtube this thing is more made for cloud chasers etc. isn't that correct? Well I'm not a cloud chaser I just want to get the best taste and vape experience out of my 80 VG / 20 PG Liquid that's all and the fact that I love to vape it the whole day (atm) brings me to the conclusion that I have to get a setup that works probably for me and maybe I will find a conclusion with all of your help ...

Greetings to all of you and I hope you can help me to find a solution on that .. Smile

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17-10-2016 09:39 AM
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I am also new into this board. Glad to meet you here. Anyways welcome.
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RE: New to Vaping
The TFV8 is definitely for cloud chasing, but cloud chasing tanks are the only ones that will be able to handle 80/20. You could go with an RDTA instead, that way you could build your own coils that would be able to handle that thick of juice without needing to blow gigantic clouds. 
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(17-10-2016 03:29 PM)Michael Wrote:  The TFV8 is definitely for cloud chasing, but cloud chasing tanks are the only ones that will be able to handle 80/20. You could go with an RDTA instead, that way you could build your own coils that would be able to handle that thick of juice without needing to blow gigantic clouds. 

Hmmm thanks for the idea but cant I just use the RBA Section then or?
17-10-2016 06:20 PM
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