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Mech Mod Vapor Production
Hey guys, been vaping for about a year but just recently switched to rdas and mechanical and box mods. This is also my first time as a forum user so i apologize in advance. My situation is my first major purchase was a luxyoun smaug 150w box mod and i quite enjoy it. Works well on both of my rdas. I recently purchased a mech mod for the first time and was wondering how in the heck i can get vapor production out of it. My box mod will fling vapor but my mech takes forever to heat up my coils and produce vapor. I have the Panzer blackhawk mod with an AWT 2500mah 18650 battery in it right now. Also, my current builds are at .4 ohms and .9 ohms. as well as my aspire atlantis tank. i just wonder why it takes so long on my mech vs. my box mod and what i can do to blow bigger clouds on it. appreciate all feedback! thank you guys
15-02-2015 09:03 AM
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RE: Mech Mod Vapor Production
Welcome to TVF Austin

That's one of the joys of a variable voltage/wattage Box mod.. you can boost it up to counteract the voltage sag you get from a mechanical device. 

There's more of an art to getting your mech mod working exactly how you want it and the thickness of the wire coupled with the amount of wire will all have a big impact on how fast the coils heat when juiced.

Can you tell us what gauge wire you're using, how many wraps and the inner diameter of your coils? it sounds like you could be using a wire gauge that's a little too thick at 0.4 ohms to get that quick heat you 're looking for.
15-02-2015 02:54 PM
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RE: Mech Mod Vapor Production
Welcome to the forum Austin! As Spas said, it's easy to blow big clouds with regulated mods like your 150W box, but when it comes to cloud chasing with mech mods it's really an art form. A lot of it depends on the juice, RDA, airflow and battery. You probably already know that high VG juice produces more vapor, and RDAs with a lot of airflow are a must for cloud chasing. And the battery is a big deal since when you're cloud chasing you're building pretty low resistance builds, so you need to have a battery that can handle the higher amps required. (and the electrically-minded people will get onto me if I don't clarify that technically we use "cells" not "batteries," but it's just a matter of semantics)

And of course as Spas said, the wire matters a lot in your builds. What kind of coils are you building? (style, size of wire, inner diameter, etc)
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RE: Mech Mod Vapor Production
Currently have a single coil 8 wrap around 3/32 of 26 ga and a dual 6 wrap of 24 ga around 3/32.
15-02-2015 11:22 PM
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RE: Mech Mod Vapor Production
Your resistance is probably moderately high. Download an ohm law calculator and you can see how many watts your battery is actually delivering. Every time you fire the mechanical your voltage drops and so does your wattage. Regulated devices maintain a steady wattage and can actually " boost " the wattage to the coil.  Hence a much hotter coil with more vapor production.

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RE: Mech Mod Vapor Production
(15-02-2015 11:22 PM)Austin Wrote:  Currently have a single coil 8 wrap around 3/32 of 26 ga and a dual 6 wrap of 24 ga around 3/32.

The single 26G coil at 0.9 ohms will be very slow to heat on a mech, even 28G at that resistance is relatively slow. 

You're used to a box mod being able to simulate a vape that you'll only find on a mech in the 0.25 ohms and below area. Have a play around with this coil calculator and it will give you some ideas.. while it may seem overly complicated at first, it doesn't take long to get your head around what's going on.

http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp 

The cell you have is safely capable of handling down to 0.2 ohms, I wouldn't recommend building lower though.

Good luck and let us know how you get on Good

ps.. if you need any help understanding the calculator, give us a shout and we'll be happy to help you along Smile
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RE: Mech Mod Vapor Production
For an android phone you can download vapors toolbox and an ohm law calculator. I'm sure there are coil build apps for Apple as well. 

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(15-02-2015 11:22 PM)Austin Wrote:  Currently have a single coil 8 wrap around 3/32 of 26 ga and a dual 6 wrap of 24 ga around 3/32.
Try 24g 6 wrap around 1/8 drill bit ohms around .18-.2 ohms. Should give you the clouds your looking for. Mechs solely depend on your build in my opinion.
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Agree with the 1/8th drill bit but I'm thinking dual coil 5 wrap 24gauge Kanthal. That's what I do with the Ragenrock copper mod which has 1 18650. Also using the Dark Horse RDA. So I did try 6 wrap but the 5 wrap makes a big difference. One other thing is that when you watch videos of people making clouds with Mech mods they blow out until smoke starts coming out of the air holes then inhale. This gives it a chance to heat up more. But I get quick response and huge clouds with the dual 5 wrap. Give it a try and let me know.
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(06-05-2015 08:52 PM)Breazy_Com Wrote:  Agree with the 1/8th drill bit but I'm thinking dual coil 5 wrap 24gauge Kanthal. That's what I do with the Ragenrock copper mod which has 1 18650. Also using the Dark Horse RDA. So I did try 6 wrap but the 5 wrap makes a big difference. One other thing is that when you watch videos of people making clouds with Mech mods they blow out until smoke starts coming out of the air holes then inhale. This gives it a chance to heat up more. But I get quick response and huge clouds with the dual 5 wrap. Give it a try and let me know.
I agree with that 5wrap it'll just ohm lower usually others on here don't wanna go that low on my Excalibur which I only use for clouds don't vape on it everyday I have a 4 wrap which ohms to .05 throws massive clouds. But that's also really really low wouldn't recommend for beginners.
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