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Kanthal question
i am currently using 28 awg kanthal and my coils take a couple seconds to heat up enough to produce good vapor . will using 26 awg improve this ?

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16-11-2015 03:32 AM
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RE: Kanthal question
Normally heat up is quicker with thinner wire. Though resistance can play a part.

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16-11-2015 10:46 AM
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RE: Kanthal question
I use 26, and I have noticed that the mod plays a part in this as well. My SMY TC 60 mini takes a few seconds to heat it up, while the IPV 4s hits it right away. Same wattage, same atty even swapped back and forth.
16-11-2015 01:36 PM
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RE: Kanthal question
Ipv4 has slightly more power than it reads on screen. I had the same with mine, 70w was vaping more like 85-90w on my snowwolf, so I sold it.

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16-11-2015 01:50 PM
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RE: Kanthal question
I haven't noticed that to be honest. Seems like the power is the same, but the 4s lights it up faster. Weird, I'll have to check that out!
16-11-2015 01:54 PM
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RE: Kanthal question
Id say it could have been just the one I had, but my friends was the same. Bad batch perhaps?

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16-11-2015 02:33 PM
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RE: Kanthal question
ok just for slaps and tickles , i put my mad hatter on my kbox . though the current battery will not produce as much vapor , it does heat up in half the time as my ibox . used a stop watch just to be anal @ 25w the ibox fired a 1ohm coil in 1.17 seconds and the kbox at 25w in .57 seconds .
perhaps i need to squirrel away and get something more up to the task

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16-11-2015 05:50 PM
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RE: Kanthal question
My IPV 4s it super quick like that, but the TC 60 mini is even slower than that, in the order of a few seconds more. I didn't even realize it until I switched back to the 4s recently due to double batteries and wanting to swap them less often. I was caught off guard by how quickly it fired compared to what I was used to.
16-11-2015 06:01 PM
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RE: Kanthal question
Different mods apply power differently. For instance my IPV 3 (1st gen) takes a second to ramp up a .2 ohm clapton at 100w because the mod applies power gradually. My Smok Xcube II set on hard has no ramp up time at all at 100w because it applies 100w instantly.

Now the gauge of the wire does matter in ramp up. Thinner wire heats up faster because it has a higher resitance than thicker wire, but thinner wire doesnt produce as much vapor because there is less surface area.

Once you get to a point, you have to decide if you want more vape or shorter ramp up. Ramp up is a fact of vaping, there's no way around some ramp up time.

One solution to your current problem is to twist your 28g Kanthal with 28g or 26g Nichrome. This will give you more surface area to produce more vape, and it will affect your resistance verry little.
18-11-2015 04:56 PM
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RE: Kanthal question
Since we're talking about coils, and heating, and stuff, I'll ask a question that's been on my mind for a while.

I've been wondering what the actual benefits to dual coils builds vs. singles. For geese and giggles, I did a single on my velocity (26ga A1 kanthal, 2.5mm ID, 8 wraps, hitting at about ~1 ohm). During the glow test, I saw that the coil glowed a lot faster than the duals, not really surprising. But that's about the only thing I've noticed so far. Flavor and vapor are good, on par with a dual build I would say. So I'm wondering why duals are so insanely popular? At least, that's all I hear about with RDA's and especially sub-ohming. And I don't mean radical builds and stuff. Just a standard dual build vs a single.
18-11-2015 04:59 PM
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