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I am a mixing noob..
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I am a mixing noob..
I am ordering pre-made juice from a company to sell for the first time. I want to have 0,6,12,18 nicotine levels. The guy was trying to explain to me that I wouldn't have to necessarily  buy 6,12,&18, bottles, I could use the 18 nic and measure it out to give me 12 and 6. I am a noob at mixing, and this went over my head. Can you explain how that works?  
27-03-2014 06:16 PM
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RE: I am a mixing noob..
Simple enough. If you have 100ml of 18mg/ml juice it contains 1800mg or 1.8 grams of nicotine. If that is too strong for you but 12mg works you need to dilute the juice (Which will weaken the flavour by the way) down to the appropriate strength. The usual things used are vegetable glycerine (Pharmaceutical grade) which will give you bigger clouds of vapour, but will also weaken the flavour farther; or propylene glycol (Again pharmaceutical grade) which won't give such big clouds but will carry the flavour better.

So we have 1800mg of nicotine in 100ml (Which is 18mg juice). We want 12mg/ml juice. So 1800mg of nicotine divided by 12 mg/ml gives us 150ml. So we need to add 50ml of the diluent of choice to give us 150ml of 12mg/ml juice.

Or if we have a 10ml bottle of 18mg and we want 6mg/ml. SO we have 180mg of nicotine which when divided by 6 gives us 30ml. Diluting it by that much is going to make the flavour pretty weak though.

Hope that's a bit clearer - I was a terrible math teacher when I had to do that 30 years ago.

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27-03-2014 07:54 PM
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RE: I am a mixing noob..
Alternatively a juice calculator like 'ejuice me up' will work it all out for you if you put in the base nicotine strength. Bear in mind though that whenever using pre-made ejuice, like Don said, you'll be diluting the flavour along with the nicotine content.
27-03-2014 10:17 PM
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RE: I am a mixing noob..
That makes a lot more sense. I guess I need to get VG or PG to mix with the pre-made juice?
28-03-2014 03:56 PM
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RE: I am a mixing noob..
Yes. It's not expensive, your local drug store will probably have it.

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28-03-2014 04:31 PM
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RE: I am a mixing noob..
Yes you should get VG and PG but really if you do this without also having more flavorings in the mix you are not going to have happy customers at all. Selling them what is basically watered down juice isn't cool. If you are buying from places that offer a "double shot" then you can get away with it. But just taking the regular juice and adding VG/PG is going to leave the flavor lacking. Many of these are already a little short on flavor in my opinion. 

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28-03-2014 04:38 PM
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RE: I am a mixing noob..
If your doing all this you may as well buy flavour concentrate nic base and pg/vg and mix to suit. Its jusr as much work for a better product
28-03-2014 04:49 PM
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RE: I am a mixing noob..
I understand, I think I will just bite the bullet and order all nic levels pre-made in the juice. I want my customers to get premium juice, not watered down. Until I become more comfortable with it, or can get a program, it looks like ill be ordering each level. Thank you all for explaining it! 
28-03-2014 06:52 PM
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Mixing is easy. 
You do need to keep stuff clean and remember that hygiene is even more important for stuff that is to be inhaled than for stuff that gets eaten. It's fun too. Just experiment with flavours that you like and see if others do too. 

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RE: I am a mixing noob..
You could just buy 6 and 18mg juice, and mix it 50/50 to get 12. Take say 50ml of 6mg, and 50ml of 18mg and you will have 100ml of 12mg.

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