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How to make your own Naturally extracted Tobacco NET's.
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RE: How to make your own Naturally extracted Tobacco NET's.
After reading a post of ecig losing some a fruit flavour in one of mixes I was curious about flavour concentrates and the complexities of maybe making some extracts from scratch...

Anyone explore flavour extracts at this level?

I was thinking of trying one of the simpler ones like a basic vanilla bean extract or a fruit from preserve.... Smile
24-09-2016 01:05 PM
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RE: How to make your own Naturally extracted Tobacco NET's.
hi FB you have to be very careful of oils in anything you extract Good
I know fruits are no good and if I remember right vanilla is the same

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24-09-2016 01:46 PM
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NET: a real guide?
In searching for NET (naturally extracted tobacco) for e-juice online, I’ve found that most recipes are sketchy, vague and fail to give the ‘newb’ a thorough understanding of what is necessary to produce a tobacco like e-juice that is safe and tasty, or that offers actual quantities of yeild.  Math?

In purchasing products for NET, my interest is in saving money in the face of purchasing small bottles of e-juice.  So I want to know what vessels, nicotine testing kits, and other such things I’ll need to make and explore recipes properly.  I also want to see ratios in online recipes.  Unfortunately, most of the recipes I find are some person’s accounts that lacks a lot of information.  Additionally,  most people use unexplained acronyms for important terms that are known to the experienced but not to the aspiring makers out there.  PLEASE offer useful information if you’re interest is education.  

So here is a bulleted list, which I will be posting to multiple forums, of questions I have for anyone willing to help me with a serious recipe:
  • What containers, Ball jars, etc. should a heat assisted or cold steep require?  
    • What size should a cooking/cold steeping container be for a certain yield?
    • What size container makes sense for mixing the extract into a final product?  
  • Based on steeping method, how fine should tobacco be shredded/powdered?  
    • I smoked Drum/Bali Shag/P. Stokkebye’s hand rolling tobacco for 20 years and would like to recreate their quality.
    • If using a heat/reduction method, what protective gear will I need?
  • I would like to achieve somewhere around a 70% VG/30% PG final product.  Therefore, how much PG should be used for steeping, and how do I arrive at that ratio once the extraction is complete?  I have seen too many recipes that list ingredients adding up to more than 100%.  MATH people, math.
  • Time?  Clearly timing differs based on cooking/steeping method.  So, to best reproduce the smell/taste of raw pipe/handrolling tobacco, what is the best time to steep or cook?
  • When mixing a final extract, how much extract/flavor to PG, VG and nicotine (after figuring out the nicotine level of extract)?
    • What concentration/amount of nicotine extract should I order/use to bring my juice to 12mg?
  • Since I’m looking for a 70% VG/30% PG final product, what large quantities of ingredients should I purchase?
    • i.e. how many pints to quarts to gallons of PG, VG and nicotine extract does it make sense to purchase?
  • Finally, any recommendations of suppliers for purchasing bulk ingredients from?
I’m sure I’ve left important questions out, so if you entertain answering my questions, please feel free to offer more than I’ve asked.  Hopefully this outline will provide more vapers with the information they need to make their own e-juice.

Thank you all,

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(This post was last modified: 11-11-2016 10:54 PM by fitzdevlin.)
11-11-2016 10:38 PM
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RE: How to make your own Naturally extracted Tobacco NET's.
Been working a bit with this as of late , Drum rolling tobacco works nicely sweet and tangy . A sediment jar comes in handy to allow particals to settle . Combining sweet cream with ne t flavors is incredible .

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Hey Chuck, LTNS!! How ya been?
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Futher work has revealed cold mascerationt to be a longer but equally effective process .
Exellent thread in need of a bump

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