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I have only driven in California and Nevada and I have never seen any - they are a good idea - we have always had them here but that has not made people understand how they are to be used - I do not think they are a good idea for the US and the 3 lane ones are a nightmare. One brilliant idea in the US is being able to turn right at red traffic lights - what a difference this makes to traffic flow. We should start doing this in the UK.
15-03-2016 07:43 PM
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They do improve flow of traffic more than lights. At least till they end up becoming car parks when things get too congested. Then they get traffic lights mounted on and around them -= which gives you the worst of both worlds.

The real problem with roads tends to be junction capacity (We just don't have the land to build them the way that is possible in the US). And this seems to be hobbled by design.

The guy now apparently advising on traffic planning round here used to do the same for Edinburgh. This character is firmly of the opinion that irritating drivers beyond endurance by regular and random changes to one-way systems, retiming traffic lights and generally antagonising motorists by encouraging gridlock will make them stop driving. His touching faith in these methods has  resisted thirty years of seeing the results of his congestion by design.

One day I'd love to meet him with a large piece of clue by four to see if one might be beaten into him.

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15-03-2016 07:47 PM
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Hi Don - I take it you don't like this guy very much[Image: smile.gif].
15-03-2016 07:54 PM
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I've lived in Edinburgh too. The trams!!!!!!!

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15-03-2016 07:56 PM
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(15-03-2016 06:53 PM)ecignut Wrote:  Hi All - I had a close shave today while driving. A guy STOPPED on a roundabout to let another car on - how I did not hit the back of him is a miracle - must have taken 6 months wear off my tyres[Image: sad.gif]. We have to get like the US and get rid of roundabouts - the number of people who have not got a clue how to use them is shocking.

I'm actually starting to see more of them here, not sure if it's regional thing or not, but they keep popping up. Still rare enough that people don't know how to use them though. Undecided

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15-03-2016 08:12 PM
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15-03-2016 08:38 PM
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(15-03-2016 08:38 PM)Michael Wrote:  [Image: ded3a530fbbb18d1f94c6c680666cad1_zpspurpkb9h.jpg]

AKA the World's only 140 mile long car park.

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If you haven't read it, I highly recommend "Bad Omens," It's a hilarious take on the apocalypse from Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett, with a ton of great Python-esque British humor. There's a whole section about how the demon Crowley created the M25 in the shape of a demonic symbol and designed it to be hell on earth. 
15-03-2016 09:42 PM
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Read it when it came out. It doesn't actually come close to the horror that is the M25.

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They normally work around here apart from one!!! the factory roundabout were traffic stops dead on the roundabout to let cars out in front of them an accident waiting to happen! muppets Sarcastic_hand
16-03-2016 05:09 AM
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