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Backlash against European plans for electronic cigarettes
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Backlash against European plans for electronic cigarettes
The European Union has been threatening an array of restrictions and regulations with regards to the blooming electronic cigarette industry. May this year will see electronic cigarettes fall under the guise of the European Union’s Tobacco Products Directive. A number of politicians have now stepped forward in defence of the electronic cigarette industry amid concerns it could crush the sector and impact employment in many areas of Europe.

Even though the introduction of the Tobacco Products Directive has been on the cards for some time it is only now that many supporters of the vaping industry feel justified in standing up and voicing their opinion. This is a sector which has been vilified, mocked and the FDA even attempted to ban electronic cigarettes outright. So, is this political manoeuvring real support for the industry or simply a means of currying favour with voters?

Confusion and mayhem

The simple fact is that many research programmes have highlighted the differences between electronic cigarettes and their tobacco counterparts. Electronic cigarettes contain but a minute percentage of the ingredients in the modern tobacco cigarettes - some of which are known to be carcinogenic. However, even the merest glimpse at recent news about electronic cigarettes will show you that critics seem to jump from subject to subject trying to find a way to damage the sector in the eyes of the public.

First of all there were suggestions electronic cigarette companies were targeting young children, then there were suggestions they were “as harmful” as tobacco products and indeed some erroneous reports suggested they were even more harmful than tobacco products. Once it became clear that these criticisms were falling on deaf ears, with more and more people switching from tobacco products to electronic cigarettes, many politicians then decided to climb aboard the bandwagon.

If you can’t beat them, tax them

Politicians across the US and Europe have been chomping at the bit to introduce specific vaping related taxes to pay for “healthcare” in the future. This is despite the fact that the vast majority of governments have no means of ring fencing specific tax income for specific services. So, while some politicians may look to tap the vaping market for “healthcare costs” there is no guarantee that any income would be spent in this particular arena.

It is also very evident that more and more governments around the world are looking to talk about electronic cigarettes and tobacco products under the same umbrella. Again, even the quickest of glimpses at recent news stories will show more and more politicians talking about these two very different products as if they were one and the same. It is debatable as to whether this “message” is getting through to the general public but the next stage would be the introduction of vaping taxes.

What does the future hold?

If we look back just a few years there is no doubt that more politicians are now either neutral or in favour of electronic cigarettes as a means of reducing tobacco intake. Support is definitely growing although the chances of amending the EU’s Tobacco Products Directive at this late stage seem remote. However, it is worth noting there are a number of legal actions going through the courts suggesting the data upon which many of these new regulations were based upon may well be flawed.

The industry is fighting, vapers are finally being heard but can we trust the face value support of a growing number of politicians?

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15-01-2016 03:32 PM
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RE: Backlash against European plans for electronic cigarettes
The ones I have dealt with trot out the party line - usually without bothering to read what you sent them.

Their canned responses were clearly written for them - probably by someone in the European Commission.

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RE: Backlash against European plans for electronic cigarettes
We need devices being cheap as shit, as simple to use as lighting a cigarette, and still performant. That's possible.

Only this will convince ALL smokers to change, and then they can make laws whatever they like.
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16-01-2016 02:21 AM
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RE: Backlash against European plans for electronic cigarettes
(16-01-2016 02:21 AM)peter-k Wrote:  We need devices being cheap as shit, as simple to use as lighting a cigarette, and still performant. That's possible.

Only this will convince ALL smokers to change, and then they can make laws whatever they like.

Nothing will convince ALL smokers to change. There will always be folks who prefer the feel of a cigarette, the taste of a cigar, the relaxing ritual of filling a pipe. Cheap devices that are simple and work well are helpful, that's why the iStick, eGo One, Kanger Subox, and others like them have become so popular. But there are a lot of people who don't want to quit smoking, and there are a lot of people who think vaping is just as bad as smoking. And there are others who don't want to pay the up-front cost, because no matter how cheap ecigs become, they'll never be cheaper than cigarettes. The cheapest good vaping starter kit someone can get is around $50 or so, which would buy ten or more packs of cigarettes (in my area, though I know cigarettes cost more in some places). 

What do you mean by "then they can make laws whatever they like?" Many politicians are looking to completely ban ecigs, or at least heavily regulate them, and that's a bad thing whether or not smokers switch. Bad laws aren't going to be better if ecig technology or pricing gets better, they're still bad laws. 
16-01-2016 09:56 AM
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RE: Backlash against European plans for electronic cigarettes
(16-01-2016 09:56 AM)Michael Wrote:  
(16-01-2016 02:21 AM)peter-k Wrote:  We need devices being cheap as shit, as simple to use as lighting a cigarette, and still performant. That's possible.

Only this will convince ALL smokers to change, and then they can make laws whatever they like.

Nothing will convince ALL smokers to change. There will always be folks who prefer the feel of a cigarette, the taste of a cigar, the relaxing ritual of filling a pipe. Cheap devices that are simple and work well are helpful, that's why the iStick, eGo One, Kanger Subox, 
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Still not cheap enough, still not user friendly enough, by far.


The masses of smokers do not stuff a quality pipe under candle lighting, with a beautiful lepard fur in front of the leather arm chair and another beautiful creature placed on it, praising with her silky voice the vibrant sandelwood and berry notes coming from the smoke. No, these we will not get.

The masses of cigarette smokers don't go to a shop that sells tobacco specialities produced with artisan skills. They go to the near petrol station to buy their supplies, and puff that chemcial shit mostly without even thinking about it and doing other things.

I am thinking more of Innokin Endura T18, but still cheaper.
16-01-2016 10:37 AM
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